Thursday, March 17, 2011

Nicanor, the Journey Continues

February 29, 2008: that is the date we were introduced to Nicanor and the birth of this blog.  At the time, it was written by my predecessor and called “Welcome to Nicanor: Tracking Barbaro’s Brother.”  We were introduced to Barbaro’s little brother, foaled March 15, 2006, meaning he was almost two months old when Barbaro won the Kentucky Derby.  We have seen Nicanor grow up before our eyes, something that is unheard of in this sport.   From the first photos of him at Stephens Thoroughbreds two and a half years ago, his first workout, his first race, his first victory, we have been blessed to watch this colt mature into the magnificent creature he is today.   There are now three full brothers of Barbaro, but Nicanor was the second born from the union of the great Dynaformer and the wonderful mare La Ville Rouge.  Sometimes it seems that Nicanor has had to grow up in the shadow of his older brother, Barbaro, that attention has been keen on him to replicate Barbaro’s greatness.  However, to me, Nicanor, like the other two (Lentenor and Margano), is and always has been his own horse.  The pressure of following Barbaro’s hoof prints may weigh on humans, but not on Nicanor.  He knows who he is.
In February 2008, Nicanor was just at the beginning of his journey on the race track.  To be allowed that opportunity, I, for one, am forever grateful to the Jacksons and the amazing team around Nicanor.  On Sunday, October 31, Nicanor will be attempting to win his fifth race in twelve starts.  To put that into perspective, over 30,000 foals are born each year.  Of those, less than one percent actually earns a victory on the track.  Nicanor has defied those odds and then some.  Whatever the future holds for Nicanor after Sunday, I can honestly say, being a fan for over thirty years of this great sport, nothing has brought me more joy than watching this colt evolve before my eyes.  Also, it just so happens that Nicanor and I share a birthday.  I feel a very strong connection to Nicanor, always have, always will.  With that said, I say “Bravo and Thank You” to Nicanor.
Here is a link to the first photos we saw of Nicanor, back on April 13, 2008, enjoy:
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/nicanor/archive/2008/04/13/long-awaited-pictures.aspx

Nicanor’s next race is the $100,000 Labeeb Stakes, one mile on the turf at Woodbine (in Canada), Sunday October 31, Race #5, Post time 2:57.

Nicanor’s race on Sunday at Woodbine is going to be a big challenge for him. 

It drew a field of thirteen, and Nicanor will be starting from gate position two.  Nicanor will be reunited with who seems to be his favorite jockey, Rosie Napravnik.  Rosie was on Nicanor when he broke his maiden in stunning fashion at Delaware Park on May 13, 2009.  He won that race by over fifteen lengths.  Then Rosie and Nicanor teamed up again to win his next race out.   Nicanor is entering Sunday’s race off his most impressive victory to date, a win at Belmont Park on September 24.  One couldn’t ask for better timing.  It really is no secret how Nicanor will run this race: out of the gate and immediately to the front, doing all that he can to save enough energy for the finish.  There is a lot of speed in this race.  If Rosie can get Nicanor on the lead and maintain decent splits, the stretch run will be a battle in which I hope Nicanor will show what he has learned, find that extra gear and hit that line first.  It should be an exciting race, so let’s see what happens.

I will go with Nicanor, Tybalt, and So Elite as my top three.

Nicanor before and after his victory at Belmont Park on September 24:


Photo by Elaine Deutsch

 Photo by Elaine Deutsch

Photo by Greg Jones

Photo by Elaine Deutsch

Photo by Elaine Deutsch

Photo by Elaine Deutsch

Photo by Greg Jones

Photo by Greg Jones

Photo by Elaine Deutsch

Photo by Elaine Deutsch

Photo by Greg Jones


204 Comments:

Yea Thats so awesome he comming to Canada. I live two hours away at Canadian forces base Trenton. I will be at woodbine for sure. Just to see Nicanor. Its like being beside the queen or barack obama or stephen harper. Or any other really famous person. or Thoroughbred racehorse. I also think its really good for Canadian horse racing fans. because as much as Barbaro and his brothers are americas horses. They are also Canada's horses as well. Barbaro ment allot to Canadian horse racing fans. and to me allot. I have every book about Barbaro.
Hope Nicanor wins. Than I will be shouting O' Canada He won.
Love you Nicanor XOXOXOXOXOXOXOX
Alexandra 30 Oct 2010 1:23 PM
Great blog, Greg.  Brought tears to my eyes -- very moving.  This colt has been scrutinized so heavily, one hopes he has no awareness of the weight on his beautiful back.  And of course, he doesn't.  He is so loved by so many of us -- helped pull us through the great grief of Barbaro's death.  Of course, we love Lentenor and Margano, as well.  But Nic was the first full brother, and is beloved for that reason, for starters.  Thanks to the Jacksons for sharing him so openly with us.  Thanks to Michael Matz and company for taking such good care of him.  He is very, very precious to us all.  
Cal Gal 30 Oct 2010 1:38 PM
I like your picks for the race better than mine Greg J...your commentary is my sentiments exactly....Good Luck Nicanor, were betting and loving you!!
Ragsy 30 Oct 2010 1:48 PM
Very nice Greg.  I agree, win or lose, it's been an amazing journey watching the brothers grow and mature into their own unique personalities and racing styles.  And I too am thankful to the Jacksons and the team for allowing us to tag along for the ride!
LindaVA 30 Oct 2010 2:15 PM
It's no secret that Nicanor has always been my favourite. Win or lose, I still adore him.
Unfortunetly, I have so much going on this sunday (between church and the start of National Novel Writing Month) that I don't think I'll be able to catch the race. :(
I will check to see where he finsihed as soon as I can, though, and will watch the replay!
Run well for us, Nicky!
Arem 30 Oct 2010 2:53 PM
Alexandra,
I am so excited he will have some of his fans with him. He is gorgeous. I gave yet to see a picture that captures all if his beauty and spirit
goooooooo Nicanor
MJ 30 Oct 2010 3:18 PM
Thanks, Greg, for all the insight into all the brothers.  Wish Nicanor all the luck and travel safe.  Also to Michael Matz and the Jacksons for sharing them all with us and keeping us informed.
wee-o 30 Oct 2010 4:30 PM
Hey Greg, do you know something we don't about plans for Nicanor?  I am glad he's got Rosie to pilot again tomorrow.  She's proved to be a good partner for him.  Good luck Nicky!    
GreybirdK 30 Oct 2010 4:32 PM
Thank you Greg for another excellent blog.  Congrats to Rosie on her 1000th win the other day, and to Margarita Sangria ( that was a great race.  That was soooo close.
Last but by no means least GOOD LUCK NICANOR!
To all the (neigh) sayers (That's a joke folks and if someone wants to jump all over me here's a better reason.  I was reading over the comments posted after Lentenor's last race and noted all the folks who seem to think that Neither Nicanor or Lentenor have any talent.  Hm!  As Greg pointed out if Nicanor does win tomorrow it will be his 5th that's approximately 42%.  If you add in this 2nd's and 3rd's (please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm older lady who seems to be having a "Senior Moment" and I don't have my notes available at the moment but didn't he get a couple of each? That would be 9 of 12 for 75%.  To me that's not bad considering as Greg pointed out how many other horses never even get a chance to set hoof to track.
Zowie 30 Oct 2010 4:34 PM
Sweet Nicanor, run swift, run safe and know that so many who love you will be watching and rooting for you. Godspeed, precious one.
HaleyB 30 Oct 2010 4:38 PM
Thank you for the update on Nicanor.  The fact that 2 of his brothers have made it to the track is amazing:) I will keep him in my thoughts and hope he does his best tomorrow.
Cassidy 30 Oct 2010 5:09 PM
Nicanor has always separated himself from the family. He has always loved the attention and most certainly knows my camera. He does his own thing and there is no reason to change that.
Jim Coarse 30 Oct 2010 5:13 PM
Thanks Greg - will be watching for results.  Such a joy following these guys.
Pam 30 Oct 2010 5:32 PM
Thank you for the wonderful update, but I am confused by the statistic "To put that into perspective, over 30,000 foals are born each year.  Of those, less than one percent actually earns a victory on the track."  From 1991-2000 data, I see 67.6% starters/foals and 67.8% winners from starters, which comes to 45.9% winners/foals.  Please explain.
Jamie 30 Oct 2010 5:45 PM
I watched Rosies race today and Woodbine and what a fantastic first place finish and one heck of a ride.  Know that she will give Nic the best race she can give him tomorrow and since they have clicked before I know she will guide our boy safely and hopefully a place in the winner circle.  GO Nic and Rosie.  Safe trip regardless of what happens but I have faith and know he will show everyone who he is.
lobieb 30 Oct 2010 5:48 PM
HELLO GREG
I always appreciate your great work and always the class you illustrate. The pictures are wonderful. I wish Nic the best for tomorrow. BTW Wish me luck next Saturday,have a wager with a blog host that thinks Zenyatta can't win. Seems like I heard the same last year. lol
Mike Relva 30 Oct 2010 5:58 PM
Nicanor run safe tomorrow,I believe in you.I love this family and am glad all the brothers are a little different.Your big brother is proud of you all and is your biggest fan.A perfect treat for Halloween a race with Nicanor.Life is good.Happy Halloween!
Tracy 30 Oct 2010 7:07 PM
Fantastic images of Nicanor Greg. He certainly loves to pose for the camera. I have followed Nicanor from the beginning and I have always had faith in him.
Nicanor, I am sure you will do just fine tomorrow. Stay safe and have fun in the winner's circle.
It looks like Nicanor has evolved into a turf sprinter.
Kathy 30 Oct 2010 7:44 PM
Oh, he is beyond stunning.
Good luck Nicanor.
Good luck Mike Relva, although I don't think you will need it.  The Queen will come through as she always does.
Freetex 30 Oct 2010 7:49 PM
Good luck to Nicanor at Woodbine tomorrow!  Nice article Greg and the pics are great.
Derby132 30 Oct 2010 8:19 PM
Jim Coarse, good to hear from you and some of your photos of both brothers are the best ever taken of them.  We miss hearing from you more often.  Please come back.  
Cal Gal 30 Oct 2010 8:26 PM
Thanks for the update and the trip back in time to the older photos of Nicanor!  He is such a gorgeous horse!  Your article is upbeat and interesting and I'm thankful to the Jacksons and the Bloodhorse for continuing to provide us this platform to follow these horses we adore.
Mike Relva - wishing you luck next Saturday if someone will wish for me that I won't need a respirator watching that race - lol!
I'll have to miss Nicanor's race at Woodbine tomorrow but I'll be checking in here as soon as I'm back to my computer.  Wishing for Nicanor a big win, but most of all a safe trip.
txhorsefan 30 Oct 2010 8:52 PM
Nicanor is most definitely his own horse! People may think he follows in his brother's hoof steps, but I think if you asked him, he'd put you straight! Here's hoping he continues to show that spunk and spirit. He was marvelous in that win at Belmont.
Karen in Indiana 30 Oct 2010 8:55 PM
Good luck and God speed sweet Nicanor.  Time to show the world what you got - we bloggers already know.  Nice to see Rosie back on him.  I think they're the perfect combo.  I will be watching tomorrow.  Win or lose, Nicanor will always have a place in my heart, right next to Big Brother.  Soar with the eagles Nicanor and "show em" what your made of!!!
Robin from Maryland 30 Oct 2010 9:37 PM
Thanks Greg, great blog, once again. :-) I'm so glad Rosie is back on Nic! Godspeed Nicanor, Rosie bring him home safe and first! :-)
horsenut23 30 Oct 2010 10:02 PM
Thanks Gregg for the great upbeat update~!! The pictures are great!! He is so beautiful, strong and muscular. He's his own man and will run his own race. I have been waiting all week to watch his race. I am so excited. I hope sometime in the future he might run here in MD somewhere that I can really see him from the sidelines.
He will look so nice in the winners circle tomorrow!!!
"Be SAFE Nic"
Linda/Maryland 30 Oct 2010 10:07 PM
YAY...NIC and Rosie!!! Now THERE's a winning combination.
Win or not, you have my heart, Dear Boy.  God speed and protect you, as you do what you were born for.
Loving you,
Your FOB Fren, O
Otherlyn 30 Oct 2010 10:08 PM
And Gregg, this is one of the best posts yet!!!!!
Linda/Maryland 30 Oct 2010 10:08 PM
Beautiful pictures. Run fast and run safe, Nic!!!
lisainco 30 Oct 2010 10:10 PM
Mike Relva, Zenyatta had a work today with Mike Smith aboard.  Six furlongs in 1:11 4/5.  
Mary 30 Oct 2010 10:17 PM
Go to it, big boy. Oh Canada indeed! I also noted an underlying tone in your post, Greg. I hope the Jacksons will continue to race him into his 5th year since he seems to be getting better with age. I'd still love to see both colts in BC races. Maybe next year. Safe trips for them all - that is always my number one wish.
diastu 30 Oct 2010 10:43 PM
Greg a wonderful post as usual. And thanks for the memories.
Go Nicanor. You run it your way. Rosie will take good care of you. Glad to see you two back together again.
Have fun but most of all, come home safe and sound. We all love you .
Lou in TX 30 Oct 2010 11:40 PM
Thank you for this! Nicanor has become a truly magnificent animal in his own right. Good to see him running on the turf, he really seems at home there, Nice field for this race, so if he wins or even hits the board it will be a real achievement. Go Nicky!
Flora 31 Oct 2010 12:17 AM
I really enjoyed your post, it was very touching , and also informative. Thanks for the info on Nicanor.
I wish him the very best at Woodbine, may he run fast and safe.
Go Nic !
BobbieB 31 Oct 2010 12:35 AM
Good luck to Nicanor on Sunday.
30,000.
How 'bout a statistical analysis on foals with a $150,000 breeding fee.
Brut Al Fabio 31 Oct 2010 3:38 AM
MARY
Thanks. I've no doubt next weekend her star will shine down.
Mike Relva 31 Oct 2010 3:49 AM
All this bla, bla, bla, is good for the sport, bit it's a bit over the top.
annie 31 Oct 2010 9:13 AM
FYI,
Currently up at Woodbine Racetrack, it is 37 degrees with light rain, the heavier rain is just north of the track.  Fingers crossed that the rain stays away for at least the next five hours.
Annie,
Sorry you think it is "bla, bla, bla" and over the top, to each their own, but at least you say it is good for the sport...
Greg J. 31 Oct 2010 9:57 AM
Wow!  I wish I had known before now that he's racing at Woodbine!  I SOOOO would have been there!  To see one of my horses run would have been heavenly!  Go Nicanor!  And come home safely!  From where I live, Woodbine is 1 1/2 hour drive and one I make fairly regularly.  Can I cancel my previous commitments?  I'll try!
Nannie284 31 Oct 2010 10:08 AM
Thanks for the memories, Greg.  Keeping my fingers crossed for our boy, hoping gets the ride he deserves and hits that line first!  Go Nicanor!!!
PatC 31 Oct 2010 10:13 AM
Mike Relva,
I sure hope so. She is a beauty.
Mary 31 Oct 2010 10:52 AM
Good Luck Nicanor. I love the Jackson 3, but Nic is my favorite.
God speed sweet horse, and hope all come home safe and sound. Praying that rain stays away.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NICANOR!!
Greg GREAT job
Kath 31 Oct 2010 11:25 AM
Greg, wonderful article.  This is why Nicanor is so special to many of us.  He brought us such hope and joy after Barbaro. I have enjoyed watching him, along with his brothers, grow up and become their own horse.  Nicanor, run fast, safe and bring Rosie home a head of the others.
Penny in TX 31 Oct 2010 11:47 AM
TXHORSEFAN,FREETEX
Thanks.
Mike Relva 31 Oct 2010 12:22 PM
Yes, this article about Nicanor is one of the best..great pictures of a well loved horse..thanks GregJ...
Ragsy 31 Oct 2010 12:29 PM
Greg Thank you for the wonderful article and photos of Nicanor, he is as perfectly chisseled a specimen of a beautiful horse as there is.
Best to Rosie and Nicanor and to The Jacksons who are so unselfish in their sharing of their stable of racers.
Annie - it takes all kinds of folks to enjoy thoroughbred horse racing, maybe you thought you were someplace else. Those posting here like all horses and all kinds of racing. Sorry you must just not get it.
And Zowie, you are so right. Age makes no difference in what your eyes and mind tell you about the successes of Nicanor. Keep your positive attitude as it just might rub off on someone who needs it.
And Mike Relva, you are not alone in your best wishes for Zenyatta. I hope you win your bet!
Safe travels to Nicanor and Rosie!
And really, safe travels to all.
Linda in Texas 31 Oct 2010 12:33 PM
Thanks Greg.You are always a great kick off for us while waiting for the race. Go Nicanor
jane 31 Oct 2010 12:53 PM
FYI,
As of 1:30, light snow at Woodbine, one scratch in Nicanor's race.  The longshot Zarroc(50-1) was a stewards scratch, down to a field of twelve.
Greg J. 31 Oct 2010 1:31 PM
Greg J. I don't mean to be a spoil sport, but there are lots of other wonderful horses out there that we never hear a word about.
annie 31 Oct 2010 1:33 PM
Annie,
Not a spoil sport at all, I agree with your last comment.  Sadly, there isn't a platform to write about all of those other wonderful horses.  I write about Barbaro's brothers, and I follow plenty of others privately.
Greg J. 31 Oct 2010 1:45 PM
Thanks for the moving blog and wonderful photos.
Will be loudly cheering for Nicanor whilst watching him on TV via Attheraces!
He is so beautiful, handsome and intelligent.  All horses are glorious creatures and they are all their own person.  But some take a special hold on our hearts.  Nicanor,Lentenor and Margano with of course La Ville Rouge and Dynaformer are some of those special horses for me!
God speed Nicanor and Rosie Napravnik.  Stay safe and all you can do is your best as always!
Love you Nicanor!
God Bless
Abbie
Abbie Knowles 31 Oct 2010 1:54 PM
Nic is a very special horse and it is not predicated on his wins.
For those of us who love him, we will take him as he is and love him all the more.  He is a glioriously beautiful creature and a spirited one.  That he is also stubborn just makes him all the more endearing.  GO NICANOR, we love you so!
Cal Gal 31 Oct 2010 2:20 PM
Annie,
Come on over to alex brown racing.  We follow lots of them there.
MJ 31 Oct 2010 2:21 PM
Stay Safe, run hard, come home happy and healthy beautiful  Nicanor!
Woodbine 3 or 4  horse and rider fell..pray, they are both ok after that fall....
Ragsy 31 Oct 2010 2:38 PM
Nicanor is the 5-2 favorite right now.
Mary 31 Oct 2010 2:40 PM
Looks like the gamblers like Woodbourne and Nicanor.
Mary 31 Oct 2010 2:57 PM
He looks really good.  Very calm.
Mary 31 Oct 2010 3:01 PM
Good race Nicanor very exciting to watch.I think you finished third hard to tell.
Tracy 31 Oct 2010 3:10 PM
What a GREAT RUN~!!!
Linda/Maryland 31 Oct 2010 3:11 PM
Was there a fight going on between Nicanor and Rosie???  That may have cost him the race, don't know.
Mary 31 Oct 2010 3:14 PM
Yes Annie, the name of this Blog is "Tracking Barbaro's Brothers" duh. It was a tight race, waiting to see where Nicanor placed.
Penny in TX 31 Oct 2010 3:15 PM
Well I post on the other blog that I was worried about Safety Zone and So Elite.  I was right about Safety Zone.  Oh well.
Mary 31 Oct 2010 3:17 PM
Love the live feed from Woodbine - how nice to watch real time.
Loved how he ran - until the last  leap or two. Maybe he is a 7f horse if they can't get him to rate. Other than a bit of arguing at the start, I think Rosie and Nic got along. I'd like to see her ride him again. I'd also like to see him race again in a month. He paid a few bills with his 4th, but if he would just cooperate with his jockey, I think he'd have enough last to win.  
diastu 31 Oct 2010 3:19 PM
Great race!
Woodbourne, the second place horse, was owned this spring and summer by Eugene Melnyck.  He was running for anywhere from $50,000 claiming down to around $40,000 when he was claimed.
Safety Zone was always finishing second to him.  Safety Zone kept dropping into lower and lower claiming levels trying to get away from Woodbourne, but Woodbourne kept following him down.  Finally Safety Zone was run for $20,000 where he was claimed by, guess who, Melnyk!
Nicanor ran a great race, very brave down the rail.  He missed it all by half a length.
JAJ 31 Oct 2010 3:19 PM
So, he was 5th, thats ok, win some,lose some...he is still the favorite....
Ragsy 31 Oct 2010 3:24 PM
Nicanor came 4th but ran a great race. He had the lead and even came back on in the stretch, only losing by half a length, coming in 4th.
Curlin Rulz 31 Oct 2010 3:24 PM
4th place finish, but a close one!  He ran well.  Here's hoping Itsallaboutmenow is okay after her fall in race 4.   Didn't get to go to the race, but watched it on TV.  Happy you are safe Nicky!
nannie284 31 Oct 2010 3:25 PM
FYI,
What a great race!
Nicanor finished in a very brave fourth place, only losing by a half length!
He broke alertly, then he had the lead going into the only turn of the race, while fighting Rosie Napravnik a bit.  He then was neck and neck with the favorite, Woodburne, during the long, wide turn.
Coming for home, it was Nicanor in the lead on the rail, then Woodbourne overtook him.   Nicanor then fought back gamely and re-took the lead with about a 100 yards to go.  The rest of the field were now gaining on the two leaders.
In  a frantic finish, Nicanor was only beaten half a length.  Four horses were within a half length of each other, Nicanor being in fourth place by a whisker to #11 Tybalt.  Safety Zone #13, at odds of 13-1, won the race in a great, exciting finish.  Woodbourne #5, finished second, #11 Tybalt finished third, and a very game Nicanor in 4th.  The 5th place horse was only a half length behind Nicanor, so the top five were only separated by a length.
A great effort by Nicanor and Rosie!
Congratulations to Safety Zone and his connections, a well run race by all!
Here is the replay:
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/race/CAN/WO/2010/10/31/5/labeeb-s
Greg J. 31 Oct 2010 3:30 PM
Nicanor finished fourth.
Tracy 31 Oct 2010 3:36 PM
Thanks GregJ, thought I heard tvg say 5th, 4 is better, great trip just wisshing for more, guess, I am greedy...loved Nicanor in the race wish he wouldnt fight the jockey...what a delightful Nicanor!!
Ragsy 31 Oct 2010 3:47 PM
Good effort by Nicanor -- VERY proud of him.  Tough field and close finish.  Nic hung tough.
AND CAME HOME SAFE AND SOUND!  
Cal Gal 31 Oct 2010 3:48 PM
Greg:  Question.  They said today that the turf was soft.  Can't remember if Nic has won on soft turf or not.  Could be it was a little heavy for him today and of course with his fighting with Rosie a bit we all know how that goes.  Still very proud of our boy, he will win some and lose some but that is the racing game and I know he will come back to the winners circle again soon.  
lobieb 31 Oct 2010 3:48 PM
Great effort by Nicanor.  You can see he is starting to put it all together
MJ 31 Oct 2010 3:51 PM
Boy you can't help but love that Nicanor.  He is going to do it his way and that is it.  LOL.  That is a Dynaformer baby.  I can't help but laugh at him everytime he races.  You never know what he is going to pull LOL.
Jclson(Fan of Nicanor 31 Oct 2010 4:30 PM
OMG what a great race!  Instead of being disappointed, I for one am thrilled at the fact that after being losing the lead he came roaring back and was in a photo for third.  Even though he lost the photo it appears our boy is learning.  Either that or he doesn't like to lose.  For all you folks out there that are a bit disappointed, keep in mind that there is no one more disappointed that Nicanor himself.  I try not to anthromorphize animals, but I still tend to believe that animals DO! have feelings too and they know when they lose a contest like this. Anyway, good job Nicanor, Rosie and everone involved in what was probably Nic's most exciting race to date.
Zowie 31 Oct 2010 4:43 PM
Zowie, totally agree with you -- and the top 3 horses who barely beat him were all 6 year olds!
Cal Gal 31 Oct 2010 5:02 PM
Nicanor I am so proud of you!!!  Even though you didn't win, you did so well.  It would seem that Rosie is the right jockey for him, in my opinion.  He ran a great race today.  Some people were expecting another Barbaro.  There will never be another Barbaro.  Nicanor has shown he has true greatness in him.  He truly is a champion.
Texjoy 31 Oct 2010 5:06 PM
Great job on the article Greg! And great job to Nic & Rosie, he's home safe and watching the replay in slo mo that was a real close 4th. My eyes had him in 3rd!
cathyt02 31 Oct 2010 5:07 PM
Greg, what a beautiful, heartfelt article on Nicanor, and so exactly true! There are so many of us that have followed Nicky since birth that we feel as close as family. I know how much I love the Brothers so I can feel the enormous love and pride that Roy and Gretchen have for LaVille Rouge and her "Boys".
May LaVille Rouge and Baby2B be blessed with good health and tons of love!
Nicky, soooooo proud of you today!
You really hung in there, close race, darling Nicky!
sandieh 31 Oct 2010 5:42 PM
It was an exciting race!  Nicanor looked stunning.  I too was not disappointed because it was an exciting race and he stayed right there. Not only handsome, but very tough and with attitude!!
Penny in TX 31 Oct 2010 5:43 PM
Congrats Nicanor. Good to see a light bulb come on and you come back to get into the race. I really liked this race best of all, for that reason.
I hope people notice that even Rosie can have a fight with Nicanor.  Whatever the reasons, no matter the jockey, the jockey has to be the one calling the shots.  I also noted that she got after him with the whip quite a bit.  In defense of other jockeys who have been called on that, to a certain point, it's the jockey's job to get the horse to respond if they will.  Today, maybe the light bulb came on and Nicanor discovered he could rally again.  That's an opinion.
I look forward to seeing him run 7 furlongs instead.  If you can't change the running style, find the race it fits.
Greg, thanks for the updates and pictures.  Every time I see Nicanor, I want Matz to put his jumping saddle on him and see what he'll do.
Horsefirst 31 Oct 2010 5:47 PM
All of Barbaro's family is unique in their own way.It's like children you want them all to shine differently,Nicanor shined today I think in his way.Love you Nic!
Tracy 31 Oct 2010 5:48 PM
Greg, your comments about beloved Nicanor were perfect!  I fell in love w/him in June 2006, as his presence was revealed to us.  Your insights are so true!  Loved NJ's 'college' pictures-great memories for this fantastic horse!  Thank you for a super story and wonderful pictures!
Linda 31 Oct 2010 7:53 PM
Nic ran a great race today, all heart with coming back in the stretch! I hope they keep Rosie on him!
horsenut23 31 Oct 2010 9:45 PM
I liked his last race, with Ramon aboard.  Sorry, but Rosie fought him.  She's a great jockey though, but Nicanor is intense, like Ramon said.  Great race.  Shorter distance, I don't think so.  Just IMO.
Mary 31 Oct 2010 10:43 PM
Great article Greg.  Nicanor is truly his father's son, but that's a good thing.  It would seem that Nicanor is a late bloomer and thats ok too.  I think maybe he is really beginning to hit his stride...
Texjoy 31 Oct 2010 11:06 PM
nice article, too bad Nicanor didnt win but, the important part is he cameoutof the race safely and will live to fight another day.
christy tate 31 Oct 2010 11:55 PM
Thanks for the great article Greg.  You echoed our sentiments on how much we all love Nicanor.  Nicky ran a fine race and looking at the finish almost all the horses finished together as a pack.
 Much love to our Nicky, and we'd love an update on La Ville and on Margano.
Chris K 01 Nov 2010 12:06 AM
JAJ,
Finally Safety Zone was run for $20,000 where he was claimed by, guess who, Melnyk!
So what are you saying here? Nicanors a 20000 claimer at best or that Melnyk is a better trainer than Matz? Anyway it was a very exciting race. I kind of wish Nicanor would go back to the blinkers.
BriGuy 01 Nov 2010 8:24 AM
glad to see this horse lose in stakes comapny. keep him there please, maybe we'll actually get a price. as the distance between Barbaro's death and the present day grows, the sentimentalism dies as well. can't you guys figure out this is not a 5-2 horse in ANY stakes, just because you love him, doesn't make him a great racehorse like the brother (I still question that horse's greatness). can't believe you guys are still here weekly, fawning over one or two animals. find a bet folks!
Rick 01 Nov 2010 9:53 AM
BriGuy,
I wasn't saying anything other than it was a really interesting back story, and maybe how tough Woodbine has become.
Think about it, owner has a horse, Woodbourne, who consistently beats another horse, Safety Zone, running at $50,000 open claiming.  Safety Zone drops down to avoid the first horse but the first horse follows him down the claiming ranks and keeps beating him.  Finally both horses get claimed away, then both show up in the same overnight stake.  By this time the horse who kept being beaten, Safety Zone, is owned by the owner, Melnyk, who (at the time) owned the horse that kept beating him.  Safety Zone finally turns the tables on Woodburne.  I just thought it was an interesting story of musical owners.
Melnyk is a pretty big owner, not a trainer.  Mark Casse, one of Melnyk's trainers, originally trained Safety Zone and lost him for $62,500.  This year another trainer picked him up for $20,000 and then Casse reclaimed him for $40,000.
Melnyk claimed Safety Zone this year for a specific race, the Barbados Gold Cup in the Caribbean.  One of the reasons they claimed him was because of how well he ran against Woodbourne, another high-end claimer Melnyk had owned but lost to a claim this year.
I think it illustrates just how tough Woodbine has become when a $20,000 claimer steps up and wins a stake with this deep a field.  The second place horse, Woodboune, was also a claiming horse who placed 3rd in the Grade 1 Woodbine Mile this fall.  It also shows how difficult it is to find races horses can win once they've gone through their conditions.
JAJ 01 Nov 2010 11:00 AM
Hey, the trolls are back!  Why do the trolls think they should regulate the feelings and interests of others?  Rick, if you are such a knowledgeable horse player, why are you on a blog specific to full siblings of one dead Derby winner?  Were you expecting Steve and Jason to be here analyzing odds for the Breeder's Cup?  While you are picking your next bet, maybe work on the reading comprehension skills so you can spend your time reading blogs that interest you more.  Thanks to BH for providing a blog community of diverse interests and extra thanks to the mighty Wookster for maintaining this blog, and a great new post.      
GreybirdK 01 Nov 2010 11:19 AM
Rick,
This blog is not about championing horses who may or may not have stakes potential.  It's about love for the brothers- AS THEY ARE -and the rare ability to follow a certain group of horses closely.
People on this blog have become more realistic, perhaps something you haven't seen.  Most of the posts calling these horses Triple Crown candidates or BC bound don't happen any more.
So what if people get excited by an improvement in these horses?  In this case, it's not at all about expectations that don't meet reality.  People on this blog have been learning and accepting of the brothers as they are.  Maybe they wax a little poetic here and there, but if you followed this blog at all over time, it's become about cheering the brothers on WHERE THEY ARE, AS THEY ARE, not where people would like them to be.
Also, not everyone on this blog bets.  It's about a lot more than finding an under looked money maker in the odds.
I fawn over my cats, I fawned over my own horses (Although not without the discipline necessary), people here fawn over the brothers.  It's not about their ability or betting- it's about the family.
We have people who know little about horses on this blog.  People who know about horses but not racing per se.  And people who know about racing.  The nomenclature used by some comes from that.
We "Monday-morning-quarterback" races in an attempt to see what happened in the race.  By doing that, we learn.
Greg provides wonderful inside information and pictures.  We "discuss" these particular horses.
I too, if you were to read back, have reservations about whether Barbaro would have been all he appeared to be.  But that comes from the fact that he never got the chance to prove it.  Things are what they are and all you can say is he certainly showed POTENTIAL!  But you can't proclaim him a champion in that sense.  In another, he was all that and much, much more.  People have become aware of laminitis because of Barbaro's fight.  More research money has been poured into the search for a cure.  Laminitis is something that can have several causes and can affect the ordinary horse as well as the elite racer.
It's not always just about the odds.  It's about the heart.  People follow these brothers because they feel a connection with them.  They don't have to live up to anything- just as that ordinary horse in the pasture doesn't have to be anything more than a horse someone loves.
Horsefirst 01 Nov 2010 11:47 AM
Bravo Horsefirst!  Loved your comment to Rick.  According to him, our sentimentalism is dying?  What planet is this guy on?  We can't wait to see Margano on the track and the new foal to be born!  May I remind him that Barbaro was undefeated going into the Preakness.  Maybe he should watch The First Saturday in May or watch Barbaro's win in the Florida Derby.  I never had any reservations about Barbaro's greatness.  Myself and a lot of other people only say "What if...."
Deby 01 Nov 2010 1:04 PM
rick, if we annoy you so much because we love these brothers and express that love on a blog dedicated to them -- why are you here???  Go away!
Cal Gal 01 Nov 2010 1:17 PM
great race!! he showed he can run. The question remains for a race length that siuts him.
Great Job, Nic!
Ofelia 01 Nov 2010 2:11 PM
I write to you folks because you and I both know that you are not here championing the other tens of thousand of racehorses in the country. and I never hear you guys talk about the 5k claimer that breaks down. betting drives the sport, no stakes horses are loved and/or revered without my (and your) betting dollars. you remember one animal and his offspring, but I've yet to read about your lament over the neglected, or less famous dead horses (or their progeny). get a clue folks. yes I still read, for a nice chuckle. good luck betting 5/2 in the BC.
rick 01 Nov 2010 2:21 PM
Thank you Horsefirst, Deby, Cal Gal for your comments. It has never been about betting or thinking that Barbaro would be reincarnated. It is about following a family of horses, through the ups and downs of horse racing. I have always loved horses, owned Quarter horses. Win or lose, I am just excited to see the brothers run. Never would I have been privileged enough to have that happen in my life and yes, I have learned a lot about horse racing. Bravo for your comments.    
Penny in TX 01 Nov 2010 2:32 PM
I love this from the Equibase chart, NICANOR set a pressured pace, dueled into the stretch then gave way grudgingly in the late stages. You got to love it that Nicanor loves the win and gives it his all with the older, rowdier and more experienced horses. I believe JAJ has mentioned in the past, maybe just maybe Nicanor is a 7 furlong sprinter...hmmm,...lightbulb, maybe his next race.
Like I said before, win or lose Nicanor, I will continue to watch and follow you. Nicanor, you made the older guys work for win, place and show on the 31st and I am proud of you.
Kathy 01 Nov 2010 2:36 PM
Rick,
I think you are being a little unfair to the group, which has supported laminitis research and helped rehome/rescue some unwanted horses.
I think it's great that these two horses have such a loyal fan base.  Okay, I'll agree some of it is just a bit too over the top for me, but you know, there isn't anything wrong with that.  It is kind of refreshing.  And, isn't it great that these horses still have loyal fans even though neither has shown himself to be a big graded stakes winner.
JAJ 01 Nov 2010 4:23 PM
More than anything right now this sport needs fans. Whether they are in it for the betting or the horses it doesn't matter. I love the sport of horseracing, and I try to do everything I can to promote this sport in a positive way to people that don't know that much about it. With all of the problems and bad press that racing has gotten in the past few years here is something positive that people can follow. Why would someone try to discredit that. So what if Nicanor never wins another race. The importance of these horses goes far beyond their racing record. These horses are bringing fans into this sport, so stop posting pointless coments about why people shouldn't follow the horses they love and care about. The people that post those kind of comments are the ones that need to "get a clue".
Sophie15 01 Nov 2010 4:35 PM
You don't revere horses by betting on them- you do by remembering and learning from them.
You grieve every one you ever lost, whether to old age or accident.  You honor them by fighting for cures to things like laminitis.  You honor them by increasing your knowledge.
Many people take in retired race horses, training them for their own use or training them for sale to homes where just that little bit extra is needed to insure a safe mount for someone a bit less talented.
The fact that those things are not lingered on on this blog does not mean they do not happen.  We have given advice to people wanting to adopt horses- it's not like taking in a dog or cat and can do more harm than good, for both parties.
Who didn't grieve Eight Belles?  Who doesn't grieve over the loss of an animal?
Lament?  I lament over the loss of Pleasant Tap and what those bloodlines meant to today's thoroughbred.  I lament the loss of the sound, distance capable lines we once had.  I lament the loss of the thoroughbred as he used to be, because those horses used to excel in other sports too.
What happens in this blog is a unique opportunity to study a family.  In so doing, it broadens everyone's knowledge not just about this family of horses, but about racing and thoroughbreds in general.  Those who learn, will be able to pass it on.  I'd rather people learn about the nuts and bolts of horses, than how to place a bet.
The sport is in trouble.  It will take more than lines at the betting windows to help revive it.    
Horsefirst 01 Nov 2010 4:51 PM
That's a bunch of crap Rick. You know nothing about me.  FYI: This blog is about Tracking Barbaro's Brothers.  You know nothing of what people do for horseracing on this blog.  Donations to research, donations to retirement farms and adoptions of claimers.  We are all very well aware of the breakdowns on the tracks. Please, I see people on this blog comment all the time on Bloodhorse in other articles not just about Barbaro. It's not just about betting either.      
Deby 01 Nov 2010 4:51 PM
RICK
Question? Do you ever write about the horses that break down,the one's that passed away,etc? It's a fair question,cause I  have many times. Do you visit retired racehorse and donate? I have.
Mike Relva 01 Nov 2010 4:54 PM
RICK
I don't think it's ANY of your business if we follow them till the end of time. If you don't like it,go somewhere else. You have zero control over what the other readers like or dislike.
Mike Relva 01 Nov 2010 4:58 PM
I find it quite humorous,  that people like Rick can come here and tell PEOPLE that love Barbaro's Brothers "do not support other horses".  How can he possibly know the horses I care about or what I have done for horses or the dollars I have spent for horses.
Nicanor showed great courage,strength,determination, and desire in this race, way to go big man...I hope he races at least to age 6 who knows maybe older...
Ragsy 01 Nov 2010 5:22 PM
Rick, or whomever you are today, you are a joke.  The title of this blog is "Tracking Barbaro' brothers" and we come here to do just that, not listen to you and your alter-egos who like to insult us and the horses and their connections.  There are other blogs where we go to discuss other horses, do horse rescue, adoptions, and contribute to other equine issues (like laminitis).  I, for one, have never bet on a horse in my life, and probably won't ever -- I'd rather spend my money on saving horses and improving their futures.  You'd rather just come here and needle us.  Go get your giggles elsewhere!
Marigold 01 Nov 2010 6:30 PM
Since Barbaro died I have taken in TWO Rescue Horses.I wish I could take them all in, but two is all I can afford at this time. Who are you Rick to say we don't care about other horses? What do you know about us? Nothing.
We are here on a blog about Barbaro's Brothers no matter if they win or lose we still love them and always will.  I suggest that you go elsewhere. There is no place for you here.
Linda/Maryland 01 Nov 2010 6:51 PM
This is the week that we lost some of the other horses that we loved and  followed such as George Washington, originally bred by the Jacksons, who was injured on the track Oct 27, 2007. George Washington has one daughter, Date with Destiny.
Another lovely horse,a filly, Pine Island passed away. I saw her go out on the track Nov 4, at Churchill Downs  not to come back.Oh, I cried.
Yes, we have been able to learn a lot through this blog about other horses that we have all cared about.
And a lot of people who watched Dear Barbaro struggle for nearly nine months became more interested in learning about the equine industry. I have learned more about horse care, diseases, grooming, racing, and history.
AND, we have made many friends with others, right here, who all have something in common....
We love horses and we LOVE Barbaro and his Brothers!
Gratitude to Bloodhorse, Greg and to the Jackson family for sharing this treasure!
(Offer still stands, Nicky, if you need to take a vacation, my barn will hold 4 more. Bring the brothers)!
sandieh 01 Nov 2010 7:14 PM
Rick,
I was going to respond to your comments, but, really no need any longer.  Everything I would have said has already been said.  Your words were both presumptuous and ignorant.
Thank you to everyone for your wise words and honest responses :)
Greg J. 01 Nov 2010 7:43 PM
I too have donated money in Memory of Barbaro and will keep on doing so. Just because we talk about Barbaro's brothers does not mean we do not care about other horses. Yes Rick, tell us what you have done lately besides bet. I cannot understand why a person would want to comment on a blog when they feel the way you do.
Greg, anything on the other brothers?
Penny in TX 01 Nov 2010 8:02 PM
RICK!  My offer still stands.  If you can't say anything helpful or constructive.  Come to the site I'm putting together.  I don't expect too many people there so when you show off your stupidity you won't get scolded so much, and this site will be much the better for your absence.
Zowie 01 Nov 2010 9:53 PM
uhh Rick,
I'll let you in on something:  The fact that betting drives the sport to the extent it does is the reason the industry is in a financial tailspin, and it's existing business models obsolete.  Diversification is a must.  A proloific handicapper, like yourself, should be praying for as many new and casual fans, as you can come by.  You should be hoping that they actually attend the track, increase any TV ratings, and drive some sort of corporate sponsorship support, that won't have anything to do with you "expert" handicappers (xpress bet and brisnet can't do it alone) or the takeout needs to get bigger period. Secondly, I will reiterate that many blog regulars have contributed and chanelled funds toward various thoroughbred charities. Lastly, in his prior start to Sunday, the 5-2 colt won in New York at the $75,000 allowance level, defeating two 2010 stakes winners.  Not only is a minor stakes correct placement,  it is more than reasonable that he could be the favorite or second choice in an overnight stakes.
brettzky99 01 Nov 2010 9:56 PM
Americain won the Melbourne Cup in Australia a little while ago.  He is a 6 year old Kentucky bred, French raced horse (stallion) by Dynaformer out of America by Arazi.
Aluminaut 02 Nov 2010 5:37 AM
Hey you FOB's , let's not spend anymore time on Rick. He is who he is. Not worth our time or effort. Just ignore his posts and don't respond and he'll eventually go away.
Sorry Nic didn't win but at least he gave it a gung-ho try. I hope they give Rosie another chance on him or Lentenor. He deinitely is  strong headed and whoever rides him better figure that out quickly. That way they won't tire him by fighting with him. Sure thought he had 3rd locked in but guess not.
All of you who are going to the BC, have loads of fun and take lots of pictures. We'll keep the home fires burning while waiting for your return. Get lots of pictures of the "Queen."  We won't have the pleasure of seeing her on the race track again. Sure wish the Mosses would take her on a world tour before turning her out to be a Mom. They could raise alot of money for the cure of Lamimits and saving race horses and others as well.
Hope everyone has a great week.
Lou in TX 02 Nov 2010 1:51 PM
Word from Nic's barn is he did NOT fight Rosie -- he hated the soft turf course.  But he tried anyway!  He's just wonderful.  Hope Rosie rides him again soon.
ANd maybe Lentenor, too.
Cal Gal 02 Nov 2010 2:28 PM
Hey Lou, speaking of Lady Z, I read this morning where she is apparently a big fan of the jets taking off from LAX. Sure hope the Mosses bring her back to California once she is in foal. I think they will miss her as will all of her adoring fans out here.
Kathy 02 Nov 2010 2:30 PM
Its not right that some people jumped on Rick for his comment. That is just his opinion and he is entitled to it. I liked Barbaro and do like his brothers. It seems that if you don't say how great, handsome, beautiful, etc. these brothers are. That you can't respond on this Blog. Thats sad.
He's right that people betting on line and at the track keeps horse racing alive. Just loving a certain horse or horses won't keep horse racing going.
Brandi 02 Nov 2010 2:52 PM
Brandi, your comments are ridiculous. There is no requirement for someone to say that the brothers are handsome, etc...whatever it is that you said.  And, frankly, I for one have heard enough about and from Rick...don't compound it. I'm sure your defense of him thrills him no end.  Can we drop the subject of Rick now??
Cal Gal 02 Nov 2010 6:05 PM
BRANDI
You couldn't be more incorrect. This blog is for those that appreciate Barbaro and his brothers',not for a knucklehead that wants to bash innocent animals.
Mike Relva 02 Nov 2010 6:07 PM
For those of you who have not been around this blog for the three years give or take that it has been around, there are people that come and go and certain people that really never go away and one such person is Rick.
Might I suggest trying to find something that either educates or inspires you to learn or grow when you read. If you can't find that inspirational something that raises your level of consciousness when you are reading someone else's words, there is no need to comment on those words at all.
Kathy 02 Nov 2010 6:11 PM
The problem with the comment was not the opinion about the horses.  He didn't leave it at that and made comments about the bloggers.
Horsefirst 02 Nov 2010 8:49 PM
CAL BOY,
What was ridiculous about saying Rick has a right to his opinion and that betting on horse racing is what keeps it alive. Thats what Blogs are about. Peoples opinions. You may not like them, but get over it.
And who are you to tell someone to go away, and to drop the subject of Rick now.
Brandi 02 Nov 2010 10:53 PM
ALUMINAUT,
Thank you for mentioning Americain, I watched his race on Tvg and it was thrilling. Everyone should be aware that he is just now coming into his own because his owner said he was so immature. Sounds like Nicanor and Lentenor. I think they will continue to improve and the best is yet to come for them. Nicanor ran a good race, all things considered, especially if he didn't care for the soft turf. I was very impressed when he tried to fight back, I think that shows he's beginning to figure things out. Better luck next time, and I hope Lentenor will be running soon.  
Dona 02 Nov 2010 10:58 PM
Thank you Aluminaut,
I found the video on you tube and I had no inkling as to where Americain was in the pack of horses until he burst out and ahead and the very end of the race. Great race.
Kathy 03 Nov 2010 8:23 AM
What was ridiculous was what you said we felt everyone had to come on here and say about the horses --  that they were great and beautiful, etc.
THAT was ridiculous and I am Cal GAL and I"m finished with you and Rick.  There are too many more important things to be concerned with.  If you want to remain on this blog and be unpleasant -- knock yourselves out.  We will continue to love Nicanor and Lentenor and any other siblings and think they are wonderful and beautiful -- this blog is here to follow these wonderful creatures not argue with people like you -- I'm sorry I even acknowledged either of you.
Cal Gal 03 Nov 2010 12:34 PM
Bonjour Nicanor,
This is the first time that I watched your race LIVE.
What a thrill!
I was shouting for you to win and shouting so loud that one of my dogs(her name is Isis) came over to see me because I believe she thought something was wrong.
I hugged her, of course.
My husband also came into the room to check on me because of my loud shouts.
You were leading most of the way but then lost it.
What happened, Nicanor? I hope nothing is wrong medically.
It was such a thrill to watch you race LIVE. You are so gorgeous.
Keep coming back to race because eventually you will win a stakes.
Good luck for next time.
I am eager to see you race once again.
Those photos of you as a young one are beautiful, and I am grateful to Mr. and Mrs. Jackson that they have shared these photos with us, your fans.
Love to read about you, Lentenor, and hopefully Margano soon. What is he doing now?
Lots of love to you, Lentenor, Margano, Mr. Matz, and Mr. and Mrs. Jackson.
Lise from Maine 03 Nov 2010 12:50 PM
Bravo Cal Gal for your last comments.
Lise from Maine, Sat was the first time I had seen the race live. I was yelling, jumping up and down, acting like a fool, and then I realized I was the only one in my living room. Nicanor did a good job. We love our boys!
Penny in TX 03 Nov 2010 2:08 PM
CAL GAL
Well said,you're on point.
Mike Relva 03 Nov 2010 6:25 PM
RIGHT ON CAL GAL!!
There is nothing better than looking,watching and reading about the Brothers Of Barbaro!!!
Ragsy 03 Nov 2010 7:40 PM
This blog is to follow the Brothers of Barbaro. "Tracking Barbaro's Brothers." If you are not here for that why comment and why even come here?
Linda/Maryland 05 Nov 2010 10:37 PM
Zenyatta's race was so exciting, quite a thriller.  She raced her heart out.
What is the latest on our brothers?
Penny in TX 07 Nov 2010 10:45 AM
Zenyatta indeed ran a great race.  It was so close.  Any news on our boys?  We'll take anything about them even mundane stuff like what time they woke up, grazed, bathed and worked out. How's La Ville doing?  Is Margano liking racing school?  I miss our boys.
Chris K 10 Nov 2010 9:46 PM
What is up with our Boys???
Linda/Maryland 11 Nov 2010 12:34 AM
How's Margano doing?
Cal Gal 11 Nov 2010 12:15 PM
Chris K, I too, would like to hear these things, this is what loving the Brothers is about.The Jacksons and Bloodhorse have been very generous sharing their family with us.
May God bless La Ville Rouge and little Babynor2 with good health! Nicky, Lennie, love to you ALWAYS!
sandieh 11 Nov 2010 6:26 PM
for those few of you who don't share our sentiments, try to understand that we love these horses unconditionally, as though they were our own.  We admire them for their beauty, and spirit, and encourage them with the ability that they do have.  This blog is here for us to do just that.  Those of you who don't share our feelings, just please keep it to yourselves.  We neither care or want to hear it.  We just want to love them and enjoy them in peace.
Cal Gal 12 Nov 2010 11:53 AM
Cal Gal...you said it all! Thanks.
We will love all of Barbaro's family no matter what they do or don't do. Like you said unconditionally and forever.
Lou in TX 12 Nov 2010 10:43 PM
Well said Cal Gal!!  
Chris K 12 Nov 2010 10:55 PM
I have learned so much from this blog.  Nicanor and Lentenor have been lightly raced, so I expect that next year will be a very good year for both of them.  They are talented horses, so those of you who do not believe that, please move on to a blog where you can give positive comments.
Mary 14 Nov 2010 11:58 AM
Hey FOB's
Just and FYI....Matz started moving his horses to Florida today(15th) so guess all will be quiet for awhile.  Greg if you hear any news about our boys please keep us posted. Thanks!
Lou in TX 14 Nov 2010 3:12 PM
Ok, I have followed this since it started.  I usually dont post since knowone here would ever give me the time of day.  Anyway "Rick" do not question the greatness of Barbaro.  He proved it everytime he stepped onto the track.  This blog is about one set of horses.  It is because of this that money has been raised,  and neglected horses have been helped.  I do think that if you do have questions and have certain things you believe in,  if you do it the right way some of the regulars on here may be open to discussion as long as you are not bashing the horses that this blog is about.  After barbaro I started going to the Kentucky Derby just to see the horses, and to be a part of the history at churchill.  God bless Barbaro's family and all horses.
Steve 15 Nov 2010 6:40 AM
I just read where Barbaro has a "half brother" named "Shorty" (even though he is 17 hands) that was rescued from a kill pen. Thank Heavens now that with more awareness more horses are being rescued.
Would love to hear how sweet Margano is doing in school and when is LaVille Rouge expected to foal? May LaVille Rouge and Babynor2 be blessed with good health!
sandieh 15 Nov 2010 3:36 PM
Steve,
The time of day is 7:20, and welcome to the blog, well said!
Greg J. 16 Nov 2010 7:20 PM
Hey Greg
Hi ~!!  Any News ??
Linda/Maryland 16 Nov 2010 8:01 PM
Hello Linda,
Quiet, but, sometimes no news is good news :)
Greg J. 16 Nov 2010 8:13 PM
Hey Steve...welcome to the site.  Please post anytime. We'd love to hear from you. Here in TX it's 11:58 p.m.
Lou in TX 17 Nov 2010 12:59 AM
Hey Sandieh
Who is Shorty? Never knew about him, can you give more info?
Hey Steve WELCOME!!!
I still hurt from the mighty Zenyatta loss, glad she was retired, I guess....what a beauty!!!
Ragsy 17 Nov 2010 5:33 PM
That is so very true. With no news we know they are happy and safe. I heard the Fair Hills horses were leaving for FL so I assume it means Nic and Lenny too.
Maybe soon we will get an update!
Linda/Maryland 17 Nov 2010 6:53 PM
Linda,
Who knows?  Maybe I will have a good reason to do an update in the next week or so ;)
Greg J. 17 Nov 2010 7:46 PM
Hey FOB's here a web site for the 2010 new Barbaro shirts if you are interested.
Started a new thread for the all new Christmas 2010 FOB shirts....
forums.delphiforums.com/.../messages
Order now & we should get them in time for Christmas... :)
Lou in TX 18 Nov 2010 2:20 PM
Ah Ha!
Marigold 18 Nov 2010 9:45 PM
Hey, Marigold, good to "see " you!
Ragsy, I read about "Shorty" on ABR website. I was shocked and surprised. Thank Heavens, he has a second chance at life. According to the report, Shorty, was sired by Dynaformer and ended up in a "kill pen". Shorty has a star on his forehead like Barbaro and his brothers, however, I am trying to learn more about Shorty's dam. It is interesting to learn as much as we can about Barbaro's family. Shorty is a half brother that all may not consider a half-brother.(but to me if one has the same Dad, sire, they are brothers)! Interesting article, Ragsy, may God bless him.
Lou in TX, thanks for the info! I would love one!
Greg, No news IS good news. Fillynor? You know we all will be proud God-Parents, filly or colt. Sometimes I dream of what a filly or colt sired by Barbaro would look like and it brings tears to my eyes. What an enormous love that the thought of Barbaro will always bring to us!
Greg, does this mean maybe we will hear about Margano soon? OH BOY, Anticipation!
sandieh 19 Nov 2010 4:33 PM
Dear Greg, I was wondering if you could figure out as I am not the best in math what the approximate due date is for LVR's foal. I figure late April or early May as it was a late conceiving date, but I am not sure.
And if one of the brothers happens to be...and I stress IF...racing next week, will you be attending?
Kathy 19 Nov 2010 9:10 PM
Kathy,
Look for La Ville Rouge to give birth to her foal in late March, early April.  Fingers crossed everything goes smoothly for La Ville Rouge and her foal!
Yes, wherever either brother runs next, I plan to be there :)
BTW,
Nicanor was nominated for The Three Coins Up Stakes at Aqueduct this Friday, November 26th.  There are 23 nominations with some very talented colts named, fingers crossed Nicanor gets in.  The race has a purse of $60,000 and will be run on the Aqueduct turf at 1 1/16 miles.
The full list of nominations for the race:
Nicanor, Grassy, Whatsthescript, Pocket Cowboys, Straight Story, WarHoot, Smart Bid, Slambino, Followmyfootsteps, Seniors Pride, Sal the Barber, Pretty Boy Freud, Oil Man, Laureate Conductor, Icabad Crane, General Perfect, Discreet Treasure, Carson Hall, Boots Ahead, Banrock, Alma d'Oro, Bangalore Gold, and Ben's Cat, who has started seven races this year and has emerged victorious in all seven of those races.  Should be a great field! 
Greg J. 20 Nov 2010 9:47 AM
Greg...thanks for the update. I'm sure you'll let us know if Nicanor gets in or not.
Hope you and yours have a very Happy Thanksgiving.
Lou in TX 20 Nov 2010 10:45 AM
Re:  "Family" in horses.
In all breeds of horses, only the offspring of the mares are considered half-brothers, if by a different sire.
I think this tends to be so because a sire can have lots of foals on the ground in one year but a mare generally only one.
Just an FYI post for information. That's the way it's been as long as I can remember.  
Horsefirst 20 Nov 2010 10:53 AM
Susie 20 Nov 2010 12:51 PM
Greg have been very laxed lately in checking the stake nominations so will keep fingers crossed.  If he gets in he will be against BIG company in this one.  But hey he is our Nicanor and win or lose is still my champion.
lobieb 20 Nov 2010 5:48 PM
Horsefirst, thank you for your post, I know that you are exactly right, and that is the way it is. (this was just a personal feeling that I hold inside, I know that its not right)I always appreciate and hearing from posts just like yours.
We have a sad situation out there where ANY horse ends up homeless or in a kill pen, I wish I had a field or acreage large enough where all could run free.
Greg, thanks for the update on Nicky! I am excited, I will be off on the 26th and hope to see the race, if Nicky gets in! And thank you for the expected date for LaVille Rouge to foal. She has my heart full of prayers for a healthy safe delivery!
Love, carrots and mints to Nicky, Lennie and Margano!
sandieh 20 Nov 2010 6:12 PM
Thanks Lou for posting the link for the t-shirts. You had mentioned several months ago something about t-shirts...I never could find them.
Can't wait to hear more about Margano...and maybe get to see some pics ...it has been a while and I am sure he must be another very handsome brother. I wonder if he is as big as Barbaro was at this age... Good luck Nicanor, if you race Friday...you sure are over due for a win!
Greg thanks for your wonderful summaries, comments and pics. We are so very lucky to have you for our moderator!!!!
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!!!!
Irene 20 Nov 2010 6:31 PM
I saw in a claiming race today at Calder a horse named BARBARO'S REVENGE. I was shocked and thought how disrespectful. Is it just me,???! I'd like to know if anyone else thinks it's wrong. Why would the Jocky Club approve that name?
annie 20 Nov 2010 9:07 PM
Irene...so glad I could help. I think the shirts really get the meaning of Barbaro across.
Hope everyone on this site and their families have a very Happy Thanksgiving.
Go Nicanor....you can do it, if you run.  Love the whole Barbaro Family and that includes Daddy Dynaformer, LVR and of course Babynor. Maybe I should say Babynor 2.  
Lou in TX 20 Nov 2010 9:51 PM
FYI,
Nicanor fired a bullet work yesterday at Fair Hill on the dirt track.  He went five furlongs in 1:01.40, tied for first of the 16 that worked.  He seems ready for friday, let's hope he gets into the race, we should know in a few hours.
Greg J. 21 Nov 2010 10:11 AM
Barbaro's Revenge was born in 2006 with 9 starts,2 wins,o places and 1 show.. earnings: 31,310....
I believe he is a California horse..a pretty horse..I would not be offended from his name though.. who know's why and there are too many worries in our world to worry about whats in a name...just thinking, no offence meant....
Can't you just see Nicanor, strutting around after that work, he is something else...Beautiful...
Since his workout was the 20th at FairHill he isn't in Florida yet...he may not go...depends I would think what races they can find for him..
Ragsy 21 Nov 2010 1:36 PM
Sandieh,
Thanks, on the Shorty information, guess since he is a Dynaformer baby I like him too..I really don't care even if La Ville Rouge isn't mama...he is half way there...
Everyone have a Blessed Thanksgiving!!!
Ragsy 21 Nov 2010 1:48 PM
FYI,
Nicanor is in!  Nicanor made the field for the Three Coins Up Stakes race at Aqueduct this friday at Aqueduct.  Johnny Velazquez has the mount on Nicanor, who will be breaking from the #7 gate.  It is race #8 with a post time of 3:10.
I will post a blog entry tomorrow looking at the field of ten.
Greg J. 21 Nov 2010 2:10 PM
Yippeeee! Go Nicky! May you be blessed with a safe trip home! 7 is my lucky number, good luck, darling Nicky!
Sorry to hear about Calvin Borel, best wishes for a speedy recovery, Calvin!
Ragsy,I feel the same way. Horsefirst is correct, but I still feel "family" in my heart.His story has a better ending than so many unfortunate others. I still find it hard to believe what happened to Kentucky Derby winner Ferdinand. Unbelievable.
GREG, thanks for the news and your dedication to making this possible for all of us FOB news crazed bloggers!
sandieh 21 Nov 2010 3:25 PM
Whooppeeee,
Thanks GregJ!!!!
Ragsy 21 Nov 2010 3:52 PM
Sorry to read about Calvin. Wish him a speedy recovery.
Go Nicanor!!!  Your in stiff company but we FOB's know you can do whatever you set your mind to do. Just come home safe and sound.
Ragsy, that's 2:10 p.m. our time.
Lou in TX 21 Nov 2010 4:33 PM
I looked up Mr.Prospector's picture and was suprised how closely the Brothers look like him in the face...Even Roberto is one great looker..just georgous..
Sure hope Calvin doesn't have to be wired, thats so uncomfortable...  
Ragsy 21 Nov 2010 4:35 PM
Sandieh,
yes, we know what is correct, but we were leading with the heart!!to me, sometimes that's the best...
BARBARO SIMPLY THE BEST!!!!
Ragsy 21 Nov 2010 4:39 PM
Looking forward to Nicanor's race this Friday. Have a safe trip Nicanor.
What happened to Calvin?
Penny in TX 21 Nov 2010 5:10 PM
Penny, Calvin was injured when thrown from his mount during a race. Calvin suffered a broken jawbone. Painful and uncomfortable, may Calvin have a speedy recovery!
sandieh 21 Nov 2010 6:13 PM
Penny: Calvin was in a accident yestrday in a race and broke his jaw.  Not sure if they have to wire it or not.
lobieb 21 Nov 2010 7:09 PM
Calvin Borel, Louisiana boy, where I live.  I wish him a speady recovery.
JV on Nicanor, I'm so happy to hear that.  JV was on Lentenor when he won his maiden.
JV is not a regular rider for MM.  As a matter of fact, the only horse in recent times that I can remember JV having the mount, is Lentenor.  So perhaps JV likes these boys.
Mary 21 Nov 2010 8:11 PM
In my mind, Nicanor is now entering his prime.  JV having the mount IMO is very telling.  Rarely does he ride MM horses.  
Mary 21 Nov 2010 8:24 PM
Penny,
Calvin got tossed from a horse and broke his jaw at the joint, he is awaiting news whether its surgery or not...hope not for him, but would bet he will...
Ragsy 21 Nov 2010 8:38 PM
Hey Lou,
Thanks, "its 2:10" last time I almost missed it...my sister did.. can't wait...
I am looking up all males in the pedigree of the Brothers and their are some fantastic lookers..
see ya tomorrow...
Ragsy 21 Nov 2010 8:59 PM
Hey Mary,
Tell us some more fantastic stories about Mr. Prospector, he was such an exceptional, good looking fella and if I mispell a word dont jump me.
I agree with ya,  Nicanor is entering prime time now...such a good looking dude...
sorry Penny guess we all answered you! I sure hope Calvin is ready by the time Oaklawn reopens Jan 18,2011 can't believe it's so soon...after Life At Ten, don't think I will bet again..sounds crooked...
Ragsy 21 Nov 2010 9:11 PM
Calvin had surgery today. He is expected to be out 5-6 weeks. One side of his jaw was a clean break, the other was going to require pins and screws. This is what was posted by his wife on Calvin's web page. Good luck Calvin and a speedy recovery.
Lou in TX 21 Nov 2010 9:45 PM
Hey Greg..how is Nicanor's Stake race rated? Ya know Grade1, Grade 11 or Grade 111. You didn't mention that in your post.
Lou in TX 22 Nov 2010 12:12 AM
Lou,
The Three Coins Up Stakes is an overnight stakes race, it is a un-graded stakes race.
Greg J. 22 Nov 2010 7:25 AM
O.K. Thanks Greg.
Have a happy Thanksgiving all!
Lou in TX 22 Nov 2010 2:01 PM
Dang it, I hope I did not offend Mary, I just love the Mr.Prospector bloodline....most of them are stunning to look at....
Ragsy 22 Nov 2010 5:34 PM
Yipee! Yay! and Yahoo!  Anytime Nicanor runs its a special day.  There's some tough competition in there, but we all know that Nicanor will do his best and any horses that race against him will have to be at the top of their game to beat him. As always, may he run swiftly and perhaps more important safely.  Carrots, apples, mints and hugs to all the family.    Best wishes to Nicanor for his race, to Lentenor for whatever is next in his future,
to Margano for the important lessons he's learning and to Mama LaVille and the little to be announced one.
Zowie 22 Nov 2010 6:49 PM
Thanks everyone for the info on Calvin. Sounds very painful, bless his heart. I hope he has a speedy and uneventful recovery.
Nicanor, gate 7, JV, sounds like a winning combination.
Here's to everyone having a safe and wonderful Thanksgiving!!
Penny in TX 22 Nov 2010 7:04 PM
Ragsy, I'm not offended.  I have never jumped anyone for mispelling a word.  Mr. Prospecter was a wonderful looking horse; I just don't like to see too much of him in a pedigree. Yes I have a problem with excessive linebreeding.
Mary 23 Nov 2010 10:05 AM
Mary, is this Johnny V thats riding Nicanor the same one that rode Life At Ten at the Breeders Cup?
I would think too much of any horse in a pedigree would be wrong, but do you think the brothers look like Mr.P?  gosh, he is georgous... I am so glad that I did not offend you!
Ragsy 23 Nov 2010 11:10 AM
Don't forget to order your Barbaro shirts soon. We need to get the order in pronto. Would make great Christmas gifts.
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Go Nicanor on Friday!!!
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Lou in TX 23 Nov 2010 11:31 AM
Ragsy, yes that was Johnny V. on Life at Ten.  He was so right about Life at Ten, something was terribly wrong.
No, I really don't see a resemblance between Mr. Prospector and the brothers.  Of course, I don't think Nicanor and Lentenor look alike at all.  Lentenor looks more like Barbaro.  
Mary 23 Nov 2010 5:46 PM
Lentenor has that perfect and almost otherworldly arrowhead on his forehead.  Margano is the one who will resemble Barbaro the most.
Marigold 23 Nov 2010 6:16 PM
Marigold, disagree, Margano is a Dynaformer.  By the way Ragsy, Mr. Prospector was buried at Claiborne Farms in between Secretariat and Nijinsky.  If you look at La Ville Rouge's pedigree you will see the great Nijinsky.  
Mary 23 Nov 2010 9:03 PM
Greg..Sorry to hear you been under the weather. Hope you are feeling better and get to go Friday. Hopefully your meds have kicked in and given you some relief.
Have a good Thanksgiving and a safe trip to Aquaduct, if you go.
Lou in TX 24 Nov 2010 12:07 AM
I did look up that mighty Nijinsky and he does have quite an impressive list of accomplishments and PrinceQuello,I suprised to find that he was smuggled across a Germany blockade during the war as a weanling...he is quite distinctive himself..
what a world of information one can find....
Ragsy 24 Nov 2010 11:37 AM
Hey, Lou in TX, Thanks  for the reminder!
Nicky, sweetie,Good luck on Friday, come home safe! Love you!
Thanks on this Thanksgiving to Bloodhorse, Greg, with sincere gratitude to the Jackson Family. We have so much to be thankful for, may everyone be blessed with health and happiness!
Ragsy, Lou and Marigold, I am thankful and happy everytime I read this blog, to see you still here, always interesting posts.
EVERYONE, Happy Thanksgiving!!!!!!
sandieh 24 Nov 2010 6:15 PM
Mike Relva, Happy Thanksgiving to you also! Haven't heard from you lately, hope everythings ok. Still want my picture of Tin Man!
sandieh 24 Nov 2010 6:17 PM
gobble,gobble,gobble have fun one and all...hey Lou,Sandieh, Marigold and Mary,,you too Gregj many blessings to you...may our favorite Nicky be safe,healthy,win,have fun and give us a big grin comming for home.....much love to Nicanor and his people...have a
Blessed Thanksgiving....
Ragsy 24 Nov 2010 7:16 PM
Could not believe that Barbaro still does not have a picture of himself on the tbpedigree.com  Today, was the first time that I looked at his write up, I was floored that he had no picture. Such a beautiful boy....he should be honored with his picture on that site..
Ragsy 24 Nov 2010 7:30 PM
Ragsy,
I don't believe that Lentenor has a picture posted either.I have a sneaking suspicion that a fan or 2 have posted the pictures for Nicanor and Margano. And that is the only reason for their pictures on TB Pedigree Query. I further surmise that if someone were to upload a personal picture of Barbaro and Lentenor, no one would pull them. Nicanor and Margano's pictures appear to be BH's and they are still there.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. And Greg, my thoughts are with your bro-in-law Bill on this holiday weekend. Hope he is doing better.
Kathy 24 Nov 2010 8:27 PM
A Blessed thanksgiving for all of you here on the board and for the Jacksons and Michael Matz and Peter Brette their families and staffs and of course to our beloved colts, Nic and Len (and young Margano in FL).  May Nic be safe and sound during his race tomorrow and, hopefully, successful with Johnny V on his back.  How exciting to contemplate!  Many Blessings to Daddy D and Mama La Ville Rouge, too, as well as the staff at Mill Ridge, Headley Bell and everyone there who takes such good care of the Moms and babies.
Marigold 24 Nov 2010 8:44 PM
Ragsy, the history of Princequillo is fascinating to me.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!
Mary 24 Nov 2010 9:32 PM
"I have to work on Friday and can't see the race." I hope bloodhorse has the replay.
GO NIC~!!!!
Linda/Maryland 24 Nov 2010 10:18 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to our beloved horses: Nicky, Lenny and Margano; and to their connections: Michael Matz, Peter Brette and of course the Jacksons who have so generously shared their horses with us. Also a Happy Thanksgiving to all us FOB's who continue to carry on Barbaro's legacy.
Chris K 24 Nov 2010 11:11 PM

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